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Farfalla



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Lost somewhere between here and there Reply with quote

I'm not sure where to start here as there is so much.... am just looking for someone to talk to about my situation.

I seem to have lost myself along the way and am not sure how to get back on track.

I remarried in 2000. I have one son who is now 20. He had custody of his two younger children. They are now 19 and 21. We have lived together since marrying in 2000. We raised our 3 children together.

My step children's mother has walked out on them about a year before I met my now husband. She seldom saw her children. From 2000 until they graduated from high school they spent about 2 weeks a year with her. So basically we raised them.

The stress over these years has been terrible as my step children were angry at their mother and they resented me for 'taking her place.' I don't want to go into too much detail right now because it will make this too long and bombard you, but basically we have dealt with all of the predictable problems of lost children... suicidal behavior, cutting, drugs, running away, sexual acting out, criminal behavior and on and on.

Through all of this.... my husband lost his job in 2002 due to the financial crisis caused by 9/11. He's never been able to get a permanent job since. He's worked a contract or two each year. We started a business doing web development (his forte) but we have lost all of our contracts now due to the current financial crisis.

The one good thing is that I have had a good job through all of this so at least we have a roof over our heads. Though our finances are not good.. we have gone through our savings waiting for him to get his act together with a job... we need to sell our house as I can no longer make the mortgage payments on my income.

With that background.. … Today I have children that I am having to kick out of my house... my step son for stealing from me, lying, drinking excessively, refusing to get a job and drug trafficking. My step daughter for drug use and the scary people she brings around.


My son is still with us. He is in college getting a degree in physics. At 20 he's a freshman. He took a couple of years off after high school to work. Now, after working as a bank teller for several years he understands the wisdom of getting a college degree. I want to work with him in every way to get him through college.

My husband spends almost every waking hour of his day in his office. We had converted our third garage by into a very nice office for him. He sits out there playing computer games, surfing the internet and writing a book. Actually this is what he’s done for most of the years since he lost his job in 2002.

IN recent months I’ve been able to get him to participate a bit more in the house. He takes care of our dogs (but will not walk them); he does the dishes once or twice a week and cooks dinner a couple of times a week. He wakes up at 7 am because our dogs make him get up… he goes to his office. When I come home from work he might come out for a few minutes to say hi to me. Then he goes back to his office where he stays until midnight or 1 am when he comes to bed.

As you can see my life is in shambles and I have no idea where to get back on track.
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Jennifer
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be ovious to you, but it is not to me. what would your life look like back on track. do you mean your life or your husband's life?

As far as the step children go, sorry to heat that, but sounds as if you are taking care of the problem and it is something that cannot be worked on at this time.

Good for your son for making his way in the world and learning the value of life and good for you for teaching him that.
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Farfalla



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jennifer,

Thank you so much for your reply. I’m at a point where I am frozen and need some help just to make the first move.

Jennifer wrote:
This might be ovious to you, but it is not to me. what would your life look like back on track. do you mean your life or your husband's life?


Very good questions.

It means both… I recognize that I cannot be responsible for, nor make my husband change. All I can do it change myself and let him know what I need from him. I can also encourage him to get help for what I believe is a very deep, long term depression he’s been suffering. If he does not get his life back on track he is going to have to leave. I have told him this.

What does my life back on track mean?

1) Loose a lot of weight that I’ve gained in the last few years.

2) Improved health, stamina, etc.

3) A makeover on my looks. I turn 60 this summer … people tell me I look 40. To me I look old and tired.

4) My son continues to do well in college and I’m able to give him the appropriate support for this.

5) I have a calm, clean, peaceful home. My family actually eats meals together again.

6) My finances are back in order… they are a mess right now.

7) I work on my hobbies again… garden, jewelry and beading, silk painting, and other arts.

8 ) I spend time with my dogs… training, walking, agility training, etc (I have a border collie and a Newfoundlander)

9) The relationship with my siblings (at least with some of them) is repaired. (I have 7 siblings)

10) I have friends that I do things with.

11) I have a husband who is healthy mentally and physically and how engages with me. We do great fun things together, etc etc. ( I put this last only because I realize that it’s up to him mostly if he continues to be part of my life.)

About my husband: I do love him. He has some great qualities… he just seems so broken. It’s like the mess with his kids and losing his job, not finding another good one, has totally broken him. But having all the responsibility here and little to no nurturing from him is wearing me out physically and emotionally.

I love your questions and have asked my husband to write me a letter today in which he lays out his response to “what would your life look like back on track”. And I’ll write him a letter telling responding to the question from my point of view in return.

Jennifer wrote:
As far as the step children go, sorry to heat that, but sounds as if you are taking care of the problem and it is something that cannot be worked on at this time.


It was hard to arrive at the point I have with them. It’s hard for me to give up on them as I love them very much. But at some point they have to take the responsibility for their own choices in life. Out of high school I helped them get into college, got them the financial aid they needed to pay their way. They had it all covered. But both flunked out of their first year in college due to partying, drugs etc. I’ve done all I can for them.

Jennifer wrote:
Good for your son for making his way in the world and learning the value of life and good for you for teaching him that.


Thanks. He’s a sweet kid. I (and his father) are helping him with his goals. He wants to get a PHD in Physics.

When I was his age I had no help with education. My parents had 8 children. They both had college degrees but did not seem to put our college education as a priority. All of us have college degrees but we all did it on our own. I had to work full time and go to school full time. I was exhausted after two years of this, so eventually I joined the military and did 4 years to get the GI Bill. So eventually I got an advanced degree in engineering. My son’s dad (and my ex) has a Masters in Electrical Engineering and then went on to get his MD while we were married.

Education is very important to us. I’m glad that it has rubbed off on our son.

He has a long road ahead and I want to be there for him all the way. The nonsense with my step kids and my husband is not good for my son. I know that I have to resolve it because the disruption is unhealthy.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your post and empathy, as well as your input from the quran. there is an email address on my name through which you may contact me regarding poly marriage.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice list! Since you have last posted, how are you doing on your list? I agree that your husband is out of your control but I do see a lot that if you make changes, changes happen around you, it is called the "ripple affect"

I think that all of those things on your list will make you feel whole again. Where do you want to start?
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Farfalla



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jennifer wrote:
Nice list! Since you have last posted, how are you doing on your list?

The weekend was full of distractions so I did not get much of the list addressed. We had Easter dinner. All our children and our daughter’s boyfriend were here. Our oldest, the one kicked out for bad behavior volunteered for Iraq. He left last evening for his pre-deployment training.

So, despite the difficulties between him and us, he spent part of yesterday with the family for Easter. I’m really upset about his choice to go to Iraq, he had so many other choices. I guess it’s his life and he’ll live it as he chooses. I just hope he finds some peace and comes out of this whole.

So I did little of what was on the list. The few things I did do were:

I got everyone in the family involved in preparing Easter dinner, setting table, etc. I asked my husband to do the beef roast and ham. He loves to cook so this was a good thing.. and he got lots of compliments for them.

He also did three loads of dishes throughout the day. In the evening he watched some TV with me and we watched a movie together. We also talked about our lives and things we want to do better. So in this area it is a red letter day.

Neither of us finished our letters to each other based on your question as the distractions were too much. We have agreed to do that later today.

I made an effort to cook only very healthy food for the holiday and made sure I did not eat large portions.

The first things I want to work on are those that improve my health. If I don’t get that under control not much of the rest of it will never get done.

I have put an exercise bike in our family room so I can ride it and watch TV. I need the entertainment to do it. My goal is to do at least half an hour a day. I’m finding that if I put on a show that I like, like NCIS I’ll bike for the entire hour and hardly notice it.

Diet is a huge problem for me. I just confused by all the diet info out there. I’m going back and forth between following Atkins, Mediterranean, South Beach etc. I wish there was something where I did not have to prepare the food that was actually healthy. I tried Nutrisystem and go sick from the food. They use tons of artificial sweeteners that made me ill. So settling on this is a next step.

I took the day off work to take care of some things. Today I plan to get some taxes out of the way. I also plan to make doctor appointments for me and my husband.

I suppose I could go through the list and put one small goal for each of the items and do that for the next week…. Baby steps. Does that make sense?
Jennifer wrote:
I agree that your husband is out of your control but I do see a lot that if you make changes, changes happen around you, it is called the "ripple affect"

I think that all of those things on your list will make you feel whole again. Where do you want to start?

I’ve read about the ‘ripple affect’. It makes sense. One thing I have read about is going what is some call a 180 degree… behaving in exactly the opposite of what your spouse expects or differently from how you normally behave. I can see how it can make a huge change. For me, getting off my hind end and doing the things on my list would be a 180 from the way I’ve been for the last few years. Geez, I used to be so active, with a lot of friends, etc. I really want to get back to that
So for today I’ll start by:

--- ride my exercise bike for a while.
---make doc appointments
---decide on a diet
---do my taxes
---add a mini-goal my list for the week

Thanks for your replies here… It’s like I’ve been too far in the hole to ever start to climb out of it. You are helping.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

honestly, you are doing it yourself, just listening to you. glad to hear that easter was good for everyone involved and yes, your step son made a choice, not one that he probably even knows how much it will affect him, but a choice non the less so he will learn from it regardless.

i'm glad that you brought up mini goals. goals are only as good as you doing them. if you try to do too much you get yourself dissapointed.

as far as dieting goes, don't believe in that concept, it is more about healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, the bike is a great idea watching the cutie mark hammon (think that is his name) on your favorite show.

The problem with dieting is when you deprive your body of something, it craves it and almost gets mad at you and wants to defy you in getting it

a good mix of protein, carbs (good carbs), fruits veggies and the occasional slip is better than starving yourself. drinking lots of water is crucial and eating 6 small meals is even better throughout the day than 3 big ones. its okay to eat, just what you eat. the richer the color the food is the better it is for you.
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Farfalla



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jennifer wrote:
honestly, you are doing it yourself, just listening to you. glad to hear that easter was good for everyone involved and yes, your step son made a choice, not one that he probably even knows how much it will affect him, but a choice non the less so he will learn from it regardless.

i'm glad that you brought up mini goals. goals are only as good as you doing them. if you try to do too much you get yourself dissapointed.

as far as dieting goes, don't believe in that concept, it is more about healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, the bike is a great idea watching the cutie mark hammon (think that is his name) on your favorite show.

The problem with dieting is when you deprive your body of something, it craves it and almost gets mad at you and wants to defy you in getting it

a good mix of protein, carbs (good carbs), fruits veggies and the occasional slip is better than starving yourself. drinking lots of water is crucial and eating 6 small meals is even better throughout the day than 3 big ones. its okay to eat, just what you eat. the richer the color the food is the better it is for you.

Yea, Mark Hammon is a hottie... Smile I watched did an hour on the bike today while watching an episode of NCIS.

Well, you are not just listening... you asked the right question to nudge me in the direction I needed to go. That helps a lot. The work is of course totally up to me... that's the hard part.


You are right that it's about healthy eating. When I was younger I used Atkins for years to keep the weight off. It was when I went off that type of eating that I started putting on weight. But I do not seem able to tolerate Atkins anymore. I'm looking at diet plans out there to get some ideas of what constitues a healty way to eat. YOur post about sums it up. Eating properly should be the goal.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are motivated and eager to do it, as you get older, your body doesn't need as much food because your metabilism slows down and you need to mix it up, keep up the exercising and mix it up abit. even on the bike, go slow then fast, your body needs intervals, if you walk, then walk really slow, then pick up the pace, its great to mix it up a bit. keep up the great work Very Happy
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